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How Joepathy helps a patient again to expel a Kidney Stone
Started by: Joe De Livera at February 21 2010

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How Joepathy helps a patient again to expel a Kidney Stone By: Joe De Livera
Sri Lanka
  
February 21 2010
I am copying below my post entitled "How Joepathy disloged a Kidney Stone" dated September 18 2008.

I am happy to report that I have had the same success last week with another patient whom I have been treating for the last 3 months who was diagnosed and showed 3 Kidney Stones in his left Kidney. This is the third case that I have treated with this same protocol and I am recording it in the hope that other Homeopaths will remember this therapy which has helped 3 patients all of whom were diagnosed with Kidney Stones which were clearly visible on their X'rays.

The remedy I used was Berberis Vulgaris 6c in the Wet dose taken twice daily and this appeared to have dissolved the Calculus which was Calcium Oxalate Crystals in about 3 months as there was only one in a recent Xray which was causing excruciating pain for which his doctor has prescribed 2 tablets Ponstan twice daily which was barely able to control his pain.

I gave him Colocynthis 200c in the dry Lactose Pellets and he took 3 doses each of 6 pellets sublingually in 2 days and reported that he felt excruciating pain in his abdomen which seemed to be moving downwards in the evening of the second day. He had a light dinner and shortly after brought it all up. He could not sleep but went to the toilet in the early hours of the morning where he had fainted with the pain when he was passing urine which was bloody and he had expelled the stone.

He is now fully recovered and does not experience any pain. I have however given him Ciprofloxacin 500 taken twice daily for 6 days to cover any possible infection in the Ureter and the Urethra which can occur due to the laceration in the passages.

Here is my first post referred to above:

http://www.homeopathyandmore.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2539&highlight=kid

I would like to share with members the therapy I used a few days ago to treat a Kidney Stone which can be useful to members who may be diagnosed with one or who may find that a friend suffers from a Kidney Stone. It is interesting to note that modern medicine does not seem to have any treatment for Kidney Stones other than shattering them with a Lithotrypter or by using drugs to dissolve them which usually does not seem to help the patient quickly. This patient had been under treatment by specialists of the General Hospital in Colombo for some months but with no amelioration of his condition.

He presented with acute pain in his back which had been diagnosed by specialists as Kidney Stones. An Xray did not show any shadows but his Urine report showed that he had Calcium Oxalate Crystals ++.

I gave the patient Berberis Vulgaris 6c in the Wet Dose but this did not help him for a week as this remedy works slowly to dissolve the stones. On the 8th day he reported acute pain radiating down from his right kidney and was unable to stand erect. I diagnosed that a stone had been discharged from his right kidney and that it was blocking his right Ureter. I gave him 6 pellets Colocynthis 200 in the DRY Dose which he took sublingually at around 7.00PM. He reported on the morning after that he had woken up around 2.00AM with excrutiating pain, the likes of which which he had never suffered before in his life. The pain radiated from his back down through his abdomen on the right side and down to the bladder. His urine was bloody shortly after.

He had passed the stone with just one dose of Colocynthis 200 and he is now completely free of all pain and discomfort. A urine test does not show any signs of Calcium Oxalate Crystals.

I am recording this incident in the hope that members will remember that Colocynthis 200 in the DRY dose has an almost miraculous effect in dislodging Kidney Stones. Berberis Vulgaris 6c in the Wet Dose will slowly dissolve the Calculi and it helped this patient to dislodge the stone that was in his right kidney and its passage through the Ureter caused him this unbearable pain which was so bad that he had passed out for a short while.

I have advised him to take a teaspoonful of Berberis V 6c in the Wet Dose daily to ensure that his urine does not cause another Kidney Stone to form and to also drink at least 3 liters of liquids daily.

Re:How Joepathy helps a patient again to expel a Kidney Ston By: girilal
New Jersey USA
  
February 22 2010
Thanks for the information Joe. Next time I will try Colocynthis too.

Usually all people get rid of the stones by Berberis but sitll they get themselves admitted to hospitals due to the pain.

girilal

Re:How Joepathy helps a patient again to expel a Kidney Ston By: garcot
Bangalore
  
February 22 2010
Dear Joe,

Thanks for updating us on Colocynth's amazing power to expel kidney stones.

What I noticed about colocynth:


The colocynth, also known as bitter apple, bitter cucumber, egusi, or vine of Sodom, is a viny plant native to the Mediterranean Basin and Asia, especially Turkey (especially in regions such as İzmir), Nubia, and Trieste. It originally bore the scientific name Colocynthis citrullus, but is now classified as Citrullus colocynthis.
In pre-modern medicine it was an ingredient in the electuary called confectio hamech, or diacatholicon, and most other laxative pills; and in such cases as required purging, it was very successful. It is one of the most violent purgative drugs known; insomuch that it excoriates the passages to such a degree as to sometimes draw blood, and induce a so-called "superpurgation". Sometimes, it was taken boiled in water, or beer, in obstruction of the menses, which was considered successful in strong constitutions. Some women used it in the same manner, in the beginning of pregnancy, to cause an abortion, which often occurred due to the violence of its operation.[6] Its usage for this purpose is documented in ancient times; for example, the following recipe was found in the Ebers medical papyrus in Egypt, dated to about 1550 BCE

To cause a woman to stop [terminate] pregnancy in the first, second or third period [trimester]: unripe fruit of acacia; colocynth; dates; triturate with 6/7th pint of honey. Moisten a pessary of plant fiber [with the mixture] and place in the vagina.
Ebers papyrus, c. 1550 BCE; translation from Eve's Herbs, by John M. Riddle

The powder of colocynth was sometimes used externally, with aloes, etc, in unguents, plasters, etc, with remarkable success against parasitic worms; and some, for the same purpose, recommended that the pulp be used as an enema. In iliac passion, enemas of colocynth were used effectively where most other pre-modern medicines had failed.

Troches, or lozenges, made of colocynth were called "troches of alhandal". They were prepared by cutting the colocynth to a small size, and reducing it to a fine powder in a mortar, rubbed with oil of sweet almonds; adding gum tragacanth, and mastic afterwards.

Ref: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colocynth



"wisdom in your body is deeper than your deepest philosophy"(Nietszche)

Re:How Joepathy helps a patient again to expel a Kidney Ston By: garcot
Bangalore
  
February 22 2010
Dear Joe,

Every symptom the patient experienced for which you prescribed that magical potency ( 200c), is nost beautifully listed in

Homoeopathic Drug Pictures
By Margaret Lucy Tyler


Thanks Joe. It will save every patient with kidney stones, a great deal of pain, money,time, and stress.

Warm regards
Garcot

"wisdom in your body is deeper than your deepest philosophy"(Nietszche)

Re: How Joepathy helps a patient again to expel a Kidney Sto By: Joe De Livera
Sri Lanka
  
February 25 2010
To Girilal

It is the combination of the remedies that ensures a successful outcome. The patients I have treated have all responded in the same manner and I copied my first report in this thread. Berberis V 6c in the Wet dose taken bd is the optimum dosage and potency to dissolve the stone. I failed to mention in my first post on this thread that I have treated many patients whose Calculi just passed without their even knowing that they had passed them. Such is the power of Berberis to dissolve Calculi and it seems such a pity that when a patient presents this ailment the classical homeopaths would first abide by their classical training and not dare to use this simple therapy that I have formulated which is a combination of Homeopathy and the 2 drugs I used Ponstan and Ciprofloxacin to help the pain and to prevent bacterial infection in the Ureter and Urethra.

As I reported this acutely painful extraction of the Kidney Stone is my third case which was resolved in a somewhat dramatic and bloody manner but the end result was the same and it is my hope that other Homeopaths will use this therapy and hopefully record the response of their patients on this Forum.


One final point. I have always advised patients who presented stones to take a capful of Berberis V 6c in the Wet dose once daily for 2 weeks and later to take this same remedy in the Split Dose for life. The split dose is made by pouring out a capful of the remedy into a cup of water from which the patients takes a mouthful daily to prevent the formation of a Calculus.

Joe

PS Can you please fix the problem of the email alerts which do not work any more as a result of which I was not aware of your post and the post of Garcot ?

Re: How Joepathy helps a patient again to expel a Kidney Sto By: Joe De Livera
Sri Lanka
  
February 25 2010
Dear Garcot,

Thank you for the information you have recorded on Colocynthis which grows extensively in the Dry Zone in Sri Lanka and has been used widely in Auyrvedha for perhaps thousands of years for Kidney ailments.

I have described in detail the etiology of the ailment and the therapy I used which as I stated before is my third case which culminated with the expulsion of the stone some time after midnight. You will appreciate that although Berberis V has been recorded and used to dissolve Calculi, Colocynthis 200 has not to my knowledge been recorded in the current texts to ease the passage down the Ureter and later the Urethra with the urine.

I would like to copy Boericke on Colocynthis which I had read some years ago and which I decided to experiment with in the 200c potency which I felt was the optimum for easing the Calculus downwards from the Kidney.

"(Colocynthis) Develops most of its symptoms in the abdomen and head, causing intense neuralgias. It is especially suitable for irritable persons easily angered, and ill effects therefrom. Women with copious menstruation, and of sedentary habits. Persons with a tendency to corpulency. The neuralgic pains are nearly always relieved by pressure. Cramps and twitching and shortening of muscles. Constrictions and contractions. Cystospasm following operations on orifices (Hyper). Urinous odor of perspiration (Berb; Nitr ac). Agonizing pain in abdomen, causing patient to bend double, is most characteristic. Sensations; cutting, twisting, grinding, contracting and bruised; as if clamped with iron bands."

My first case about 5 years ago when I used Berberis V to dissolve the calculus and Colocynthis 200 both in the Wet dose to ease the passage. It was purely experimental at that first stage and it is only when it worked that I used it on the second and the third patients with success. I believe that my therapy can help other patients and I would appreciate if any Homeopaths who prescribe my therapy will please record their findings on this Forum.

I must admit that it is just the thrill and the satisfaction that I derive in helping suffering humanity that impels me to continue my research in using standard Homeopathic Remedies for ailments and diseases that are not mentioned in the classical texts. As many are aware I have fallen afoul of many classical homeopathic schools in my quest for widening the scope of using Homeopathic remedies but the fact remains that almost all the remedies that I have used have met with a successful outcome for which I am thankful to my Creator who I am convinced, guides me in my life and in my Homeopathy therapy aka "Joepathy".

I have always shared the results of my research on Forums such as this as I am keen to ensure that other Homeopaths can benefit and help patients who present the same ailments that I have overcome successfully.

Warm Regards

Joe De Livera

Re:How Joepathy helps a patient again to expel a Kidney Ston By: garcot
Bangalore
  
February 25 2010
Dear Joe,

Thank you very much for the reply. Due to paucity of time, I am unable to write in detail with some of the cured cases. I will revert back soon.

Warm regards
Garcot

"wisdom in your body is deeper than your deepest philosophy"(Nietszche)

Re: How Joepathy helps a patient again to expel a Kidney Sto By: Joe De Livera
Sri Lanka
  
August 19 2010
I had been treating a patient who presented multiple Kidney Stones for the last 3 years and used my standard protocol of Berberis Vulgaris 6c (BV) in the Wet dose to dissolve the stone which was Calcium Oxalate as per the analysis of his Urine. He expelled the stones after suffering excruciating pain about 3 months into the therapy when I gave him Colocynthis 200 in the dry pellets which helped to expel the stone in about 7 hours after taking the first dose.

I instructed him to take Berberis V daily as I warned him that there was every possibility of his presenting another stone. On his own he decided that taking the BV was too much of a nuisance on a daily basis as he thought that he was cured and he had stopped taking it since the beginning of this year.

All was well with this patient till about 2 months ago when he felt the pain and presented another Kidney Stone of which he had an X'ray from the government hospital. He was warded for a few days and the treatment was to give him powerful analgesics to keep the pain down. He started to take the BV and had an X'ray done about a week ago to check for any Calculi but the X'ray was clear.

Just this morning he rushed to tell me that he felt an acute pain and had passed a stone while urinating. He did not however see the stone but his urine was bloody and he continued to bleed. I gave him 4 pellets Arnica 6c sublingually and instructed him to take another dose at night. He reported in under 2 hours that his bleeding had stopped.

I believe that the daily dose of BV had continued to dissolve the Calculus which he had either in his Kidney or in his Ureter for the last 2 months since he left hospital. It may have also been dissolving in his Bladder but the normal tendency in a bladder is to expel any stone from my experience in the past when the acute pain of the stone leaving the Kidney down the Ureter is promoted by the Colocynthis 200 (Dry pellets) and is usually followed within the hour by the patient losing consciousness with intensity of the pain and expelling the stone sometimes while unconscious with the bloody urine.

Such is the Power of Joepathy when used in the manner that I prescribe it.

Re:How Joepathy helps a patient again to expel a Kidney Ston By: muruganrsa
  
December 15 2010
Dear Mr. Joe,

One of my students suddenly developed pain and was diagnosed as having stone. He is a good student. But, due to the pain his life style has changed a lot, affecting his studies. When I came to know about this I explained to him about the homeopathy medicines. He readily agreed to take. I asked him to take Ber vul 6c in water dose twice daily. After a month or so, he developed severe pain in the urethra with pain after urination. He also reported a light coloured urine during that time. I gave him 2 doses of Arnica 6c dry globules and he got relief from pain. I asked him to continue with Ber vul 6c water dose. Today, my enquiry showed that he has no pain and is happy. I must thank you Mr. Joe for suggesting these remedies in the forum which really helped a person.

Regards,
Murugan

Re: How Joepathy helps a patient again to expel a Kidney Sto By: Joe De Livera
Sri Lanka
  
December 16 2010
Dear Murugan,

Thank you for alerting me by email of your successful handling of this case of a Kidney stone.

I am happy that you followed my protocol which I have since used in many cases too numerous to count and they all had a successful outcomes without surgery.

It seems such a shame that doctors will only use drugs to treat Kidney stones usually with negative results. If only they knew that the combination therapy of Berberis V and Colocynthis will expell the Calculi they may hopefully change their dogmatic approach towards healing which they will maintain is only possible with drugs which will invariably have after effects on the patient.

Re:How Joepathy helps a patient again to expel a Kidney Ston By: HQamar
Chittagong,Bangladesh
  
August 11 2011
Dear Dr.Joe,

my mother (66 yrs) has a stone and as per X-ray report :
Lt mild hydro-ureteronephorosis due to upper ureteric calculas (13 mm).

we gave Cantharis mother ,Berveris Vul mother and Calcarea phos-12x,Mag phos-12x,Silecia 12x. 2 months.And for pain given Cal Carb-200x.Still it is same place she feel.Sometimes she feel pain left lower abdomen.Pls advise what is the treatment for her....many thanks,Kamrul,Bangladesh

Re:How Joepathy helps a patient again to expel a Kidney Ston By: HQamar
Chittagong,Bangladesh
  
August 11 2011
Dear Dr.Joe,

also i forget to mention she has diabetis and gastric problem(GERD), I prescribe her your Nat phos and Arnica 200 X wet dose ( instead of 6 C,C potency not available in Bangladesh),she start it today Arnica wet dose and will start Nat phos from tomorrow.
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and her brother (55 yrs),my maternal uncle has Kidney stone and also gol-bladder stone.he has also diabetes.Pls advise remedy for both.

May Almighty show u light of "truth"...that u fine peace here and here after.

Best rgds,
Kamrul

Re: How Joepathy helps a patient again to expel a Kidney Sto By: Joe De Livera
Sri Lanka
  
August 11 2011
The remedy to help dissolve a Kidney Stone is:

Berberis Vulgaris 6c in the Wet dose taken twice daily to dissolve the stone. You will take this for some weeks or even months till you feel an increase in your pain level which will indicate that the stone is dissolved and is ready to be passed down the Ureter.

You will then take Colocynthis 200 in the Wet dose twice daily to relax the Ureter to enable the stone to pass down into the bladder.

Please visit the link below "How Joepathy expelled another Kidney Stone"

http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/216770/

You will drink at least 3-4 liters of water daily to help in dissolving the stone and flushing it down. The water will also prevent the formation of new stones.


The Wet dose of any Homeopathic remedy is made as follows:

Order the remedy in the Liquid pack in Alcohol, also referred to as Liquid Dilution in a bottle preferably with a dropper arrangement.
Get a 500ml bottle of Spring Water from the nearest supermarket.
Pour out about 3cm of water from the bottle to leave some airspace.
Insert 3 drops of the remedy into the bottle and shake the bottle hard at least 6 times before you sip a capfull of the bottle or a large teaspoonful which is the dose.
Shaking the bottle hard is homeopathic succussion and this enhances the effect of the remedy on the user.

For her GERD you will give her Nat Phos 6x dose 3 tablets immediately after a meal and Arnica 30c in the Wet dose twice daily.

Report progress weekly.

Re:How Joepathy helps a patient again to expel a Kidney Ston By: HQamar
Chittagong,Bangladesh
  
August 13 2011
Berberis Vulgaris 6c in the Wet dose
Colocynthis 200 c in the Wet dose,

Dr.Joe,c potency not available in Bnagladesh
pls advise any alternative OR we have to try to collect from Calcutta)
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GERD you will give her Nat Phos 6x dose 3 tablets immediately after a meal and Arnica 30c in the Wet dose twice daily.

as per your prescription we started Nat Phos 6X and Arnica 200 x ( due to unavailability of "c" potency),pls advise if it is works...

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Re: How Joepathy helps a patient again to expel a Kidney Sto By: Joe De Livera
Sri Lanka
  
August 13 2011
Arnica 200x in the Wet dose can be used to replace the 30c.

Re:How Joepathy helps a patient again to expel a Kidney Ston By: HQamar
Chittagong,Bangladesh
  
August 14 2011
Dr.Joe de Livera,

many thanks for your kind advise...

pls advise if there is any alternative in potecyof
Berberis Vulgaris 6c in the Wet dose
Colocynthis 200 c in the Wet dose,

6C = ;
200 C = ;

Best rgds,
Kamrul

Re: How Joepathy helps a patient again to expel a Kidney Sto By: Joe De Livera
Sri Lanka
  
August 14 2011
You will have to get Berberis V in the 6c potency and COlocynthis in the 200c potency as they do not have any alternate values.

You can read the many posts I have made to help patients who presented Kidney stones which are incidentally not easy to dissolve and dislodge without surgery.

Can you order the remedies from India ?

Re:How Joepathy helps a patient again to expel a Kidney Ston By: HQamar
Chittagong,Bangladesh
  
August 16 2011
Ok, i will try to collect c potency as u advised..

Re:How Joepathy helps a patient again to expel a Kidney Ston By: udaya kumar
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August 16 2011
ok

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