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TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
Started by: Joe De Livera at November 19 2007
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Re: TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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By:
Joe De Livera
Sri Lanka
 
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January 25 2010
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To Sanjean
I feel that it is time that you took the recommended Allopathic drug to deal with the Pin / Thread worms that you are infected with and which are causing you so much unnecessary distress. I believe that this drug which is OTC will be more positive than the Homeopathic equivalent Cina 200.
The drug that is used is listed below and you are advised to take it according to the instructions on the box.
"The main treatment is a single dose of either mebendazole or albendazole (anti-parasitic medication). These are available over-the-counter and by prescription."
Please visit:
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/001152.htm
This article on Medline gives you information on Pin / Threadworms which are one and the same parasite.
You will of course continue the therapy that you are using today except for the Cina 200 which you will replace with either mebendazole or albendazole.
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Re: TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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By:
Joe De Livera
Sri Lanka
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January 25 2010
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To Togaf
Please read the post above on the infestation with Pinworms that Sanjean is suffering from. It is not impossible that you too may be infected by these parasites and you are advised to investigate this possibility.
You stated:
"The remedy I took at the time (as documented previously) were:
- Arnica Montana 30c in liquid form (ethanol solution) - 2 drops in 450mL, 2 capfuls 3 times per day after shacking bottle
- Silicea 6X - 2 tablets taken 3 times daily
- Antibiotic ointment taken after passing stools in the morning - Bactroban nasal ointment (mupirocin ointment 2% w/w) "
I believe that the reason for your lesion not improving is due to your using Bactroban NASAL OINTMENT. You must understand that a nasal ointment is far too mild to be effective to kill bacteria in the anus and it is up to you to get the standard antibiotic ointment which is for general use. I recommend Polyfax but if this is not available in your country, you may use Neosporin or equivalent.
You must also add the following remedies to those you are using today which are all listed in my original prescription:
Nat Phos 6x
Ferr Phos 6x
2 tablets of each remedy to be taken thrice daily.
I do not think that you will need any surgical experimentation for your ailment if you follow my therapy precisely.
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Re:TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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rajhomeo
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January 26 2010
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Hi Joe,
I have just received my Cina 200. But its noted as " Upset Stomach" on the label. I think in homeopathy one medicine can be used for multiple symptoms. But my Q is, could this create any constipation ? If so, it would aggravate my Fistula . Correct ?
Also, how many pellets I need to take in Cina 200 and for haw many days ? Any symptoms to note while taking this medicine ?
Please let me know.
Thanks again for all your time and help !
Thanks
Raj
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Re:TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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sanjean
USA
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January 27 2010
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Joe -
I am checking out the medications you recommended and will let you know what I decide.
Raj -
One way that has worked for others is slathering lots of Noxzema on your anus. Apparently this stops the worms from crawling out to lay eggs. I'm told to use this for 2 weeks. It makes sense that if we can stop the cycle as easily as possible without harmful medications, we may as well try it!
Let me know how you are!
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Re:TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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sanjean
USA
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January 27 2010
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I have had minor problems with hemorrhoids in the past but since this pin worm infestation they are much worse! There may be a connection here too. Perhaps even fissures could be at least aggravated by parasites.
I don't know where to find this info but am spending a lot of time researching it.
It seems that most people just either don't want to talk about problems like ours or we are just now finding the root cause of these ailments.
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Re:TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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rajhomeo
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January 27 2010
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Hi Joe,
I am reposting my previous post. Can you please respond ?
Thanks
Raj
Hi Joe,
I have just received my Cina 200. But its noted as " Upset Stomach" on the label. I think in homeopathy one medicine can be used for multiple symptoms. But my Q is, could this create any constipation ? If so, it would aggravate my Fistula . Correct ?
Also, how many pellets I need to take in Cina 200 and for haw many days ? Any symptoms to note while taking this medicine ?
Please let me know.
Thanks again for all your time and help !
Thanks
Raj
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Re: TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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Joe De Livera
Sri Lanka
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January 27 2010
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To Raj
Cina also called Worm Seed is not the remedy of choice for a Diarrhoea although it is used for it by some. It is however the remedy of choice to treat worms and the dose is 3 pellets taken thrice daily for 4 days.
I do not think that it can cause constipation but since you are already taking Nat Phos 6x this should not be a problem as I have included NP in your therapy to keep your stools soft in order not to cause constipation.
An OTC drug for Pin / Thread Worms is mebendazole or albendazole which you may also use if you fear constipation.
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Re: TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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Joe De Livera
Sri Lanka
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January 27 2010
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To Sanjean
Don't you think that it is time you took either the Cina 200 or the OTC drug Mebendazole or Albendazole to eliminate your infestation with Pin/Thread worms ?
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Re:TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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rajhomeo
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January 28 2010
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Thanks, Joe. Let me start with Cina (as I have ordered and got it). If I dont see any improvements and I can think of OTC medicince again later.
Hi SanJean, How are you doing ? I hope your Zapper is helping you and healing.
THanks
Raj
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Re:TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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sanjean
USA
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January 28 2010
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Joe - You told me not to get the Cina 200. I am doing the research now to decide which drug and IF I will buy a drug, where to order it from, in what quantity and for how long. There's a lot of research to do with lots of conflicting advice. I don't take medication carelessly and will (hopefully) get the right medication for me and my parasites.
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Re:TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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sanjean
USA
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January 28 2010
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Hi Raj - Thanks for asking!
I have not seen any improvement yet but decided to stop using the zapper for awhile to see what happens. I was not aware of having pin worms 2 months ago when I started using the zapper....then 'all hell broke lose!! I think it must have been coincidental timing but thought I'd see what happens when I stop zapping.
How are you doing? How long do you think you've had pin worms (or have you done the research to know for yourself?) and what are your symptoms?
I know, it's not polite conversation, but I am here to get heeled in whatever form that it takes to get relief, not to be polite!
Please let me know how the Cina 200 works for you!
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Re: TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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By:
Joe De Livera
Sri Lanka
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January 29 2010
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I would like to copy a post that another Homeopath made on the Nat Phos x thread on
http://www.homeopathyandmore.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=237&start=200
This pertains to the use of Nit Acid 200 presumably in the Dry dose pellets and the patients have shown a positive response.
Nit Acid is the standard remedy that is referred to in the Classical Homeopathic texts like Boericke and I would recommend that it is used by those whose Fistulas have not shown progress towards a cure.
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By: Adil
Pakistan
January 24 2010
Thanks Joe
I stated that i requested my mom to do same under my observation and she loses 7kg. I used arnica for three months daily a wet dose but now stopped.
I may also state something interesting your therapy that i used on number of patient having anal fistula or abscess, if i noticed that someone isn't getting benefit with your therapy within in 15days i gave him four doses of nit.acid 200c and the cured starts immediately within a day or two but that is rare where there isn't any cure starts then i use nit acid 200c with your therapy to improve results, mostly people got cured with your therapy within 21days or more and what i do i reduced their doses of arnica with the passage of time into one dose only for at least three to four months after been cured. There are also some cases which were too severe so i used antibiotics injection mostly LINCOMYCIN with an injection of non-steroidal anti inflammatory Indomethacin or in tablet form ciprofloxacin 500mg with anti inflammatory Ansaid (Flurbiprofen) twice daily atleast for three days and i noticed that these don't antidote joepathy .
In short i (with help of GOD) cured each and every person having anal fissure, fistula and abscess with your therapy, the fail/uncured rate is 0%, people even having relapse of fistula or abscess with two or three surgeries got cured with Joepathy.
I must thank you for having great contribution in homeopathy
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Re:TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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By:
sailord
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January 29 2010
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Hi, Joe. I'm about a week and a half into my therapy. I'm still not sure what to make of the never-ending pus, but things seem a bit better. The fistula feels a bit different (difficult to explain how exactly..starting to fill in a little?), and one major thing I've noticed is absolutely no blood or blood-colored discharge. I actually see this as a good thing (for now), because at least it is a change; before, there was always at least some blood from either the former abscess site or deeper inside the anal opening. I also decided over the past few days to try a semi-liquid/soft food diet to reduce irritation during BMs, and while it's tough to stay on it, it seems worth it.
Regarding your last post and the Nit. Acid...is this something you'd recommend only for the pinworm-related posts before it, or for any of us to try? I may order some just in case if you think it might be beneficial for any of the fistula patients, but I'd wait a bit before actually using it. Thanks so much once again.
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Re:TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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By:
sailord
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January 29 2010
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Also (sorry that I don't know how to edit my last post), is this Nitric Acid the same as "Nitricum Acidum" listed here (or is it "Nitro Muriatic Acid")?
http://abchomeopathy.com/r.php/N
Thanks again.
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Re: TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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By:
Joe De Livera
Sri Lanka
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January 31 2010
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Please visit:
http://homeoint.org/books/boericmm/n/nit-ac.htm
Nitric Acid is the classical remedy for Anal lesions but I do not have any experience in prescribing it. It is highly recommended by other Homeopaths and you can take the Nitric Acid 200 in the Wet dose and report your response.
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Re:TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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sanjean
USA
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February 2 2010
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I have ordered Vermox and anxiously waiting for it to be shipped. I have found a bit more info on pin worms causing fistulas and hemorrhoids and will post again as soon as I have something more concrete.
Raj - how are you?
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Re:TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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rajhomeo
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February 2 2010
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To sanjean,
I am doing OK. Taking Cina for the 2nd day and nothing noted so far. Hopefully something +ve this time.
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Re:TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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sanjean
USA
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February 4 2010
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From the research I've done approximately 50% of the North American and European population have Pin worms. Most are totally unaware. In most of the information from traditional medicine, Pin worms are not supposed to be harmful. Dr. Oz had a TV program yesterday that spent a few minutes discussing parasites. Finally, main stream medicine is taking notice of this 'Unspoken Epidemic'.
I found a medical paper from a doctor in England that connects pin worms and fistulas. My thoughts are that they may also cause other bowel related debilitating diseases. If you choose not to research this as a real possibility on your case, you may be doing yourself a grave disservice.
Here is the doctor's email to me from Brighton and Sussex University Hospitals
Dear ******,
Thank you for seeking my opinion.
It is clear from our observations and from other published data that pinworms may on occasion be more pathogenic than they had traditionally been recognised to be. They have been shown to migrate to various sites and to traverse the bowel wall. However what is not really established is whether these worms utilise existing channels such as fistulae or to create these themselves.
We collected fairly convincing evidence that pinworms are implicated in perianal abscesses which might manifest in fistulisation. We proposed the mechanism of entry to be via the internal openings of the crypt gland in the anus. If this opening is then obstructed it is easy to see how an abscess could form. External drainage of these abscesses would create the potential for fistulae.
It is possible in your case that pinworms are exploiting an existing tract and this may occur if there is extensive infestation of the anorectum. My advice would be to treat the worms with a stat dose of Vermox followed by a surgical opening of the fistula. Both are easily accomplishable and should result in a cure.
I trust that this is useful.
Mr A Mahomed
Consultant Paediatric & Minimally Invasive Surgeon.
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Re:TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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rajhomeo
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February 4 2010
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Hi Sanjean,
Thanks for sharing the info. Can you let me know where did you order Vermox from and what potency etc so that I can also order. Is this OTC medicine here in US ?
Also, how many doses you need to take ?
Thanks
Raj
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Re:TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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By:
sanjean
USA
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February 9 2010
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Raj
Please go to http://curezone.com/forums/f.asp?f=943 and email me or post a message there. Lots of new info to tell you!!!
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Re:TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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By:
boobal
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July 12 2010
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I am boobal, I am suffering by high anus fisula for past two years, i went 3 times operation, till there is no remady. The pus passes through it.
I gone through the article, where i get these suggested medicines
Pl give your valuable reply
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Re: TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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By:
Joe De Livera
Sri Lanka
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July 23 2010
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To Boobal
Please post your case with full details on the ABC Forum which I visit daily on:
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/1127/
I used to visit this Forum, The Homeopathy and More Forum in the past but do not do so on a daily basis today as the email alerts do not come anymore and as a result patients are sometimes left without any response from me.
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Re:TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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By:
Search4Truth
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August 10 2010
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To Joe,
Nov 2008 I was rushed to the emergency room when an undiagnosed fistula in my rectum burst. Within hours it developed into a massive abscess the size of my hand and swelled to such an extreme that it shut down my urinary tract. During my three day stay in the hospital the surgeon confessed that it was the largest abscess he had ever seen and that I was very lucky it hadn't polluted my colon.
Flash forward to April 2009, the surgical wound had healed perfectly a couple months earlier, however it was around this time that I began to experience a great deal of pain in the general area. Not so much on the scar itself, but a deeper ache deep inside the tissue. The surgeon told me this could be due to the nerve endings reconnecting as it apparently is very common to experience this kind of pain. He advised I wait a few months and then consult my regular physician.
Jump ahead to June - August 2009, I'm still in pain so I consult my physician who sends me in for an ultrasound and a basic rectal exam. Everything comes back perfect though I'm still suffering. My physician has no immediate answers but advises that as a last resort I may want to have a colonoscopy. Though this would be a last resort if I was still suffering..
Mind you the pain fluxuates all this time. I always grade it on a scale of 1-10 (1 being some subliminal discomfort, and 10 being unable to function). I'd spent many weeks where I'd be between 1-3 and could ignore it, only to get blindsided by a 8-10 day or week. Then it would subside and I could function, though I've rarely if ever had a '0' day.
January 2010 I had my colonoscopy and everything was perfect. Again I'm told it could all be due to the nerve endings healing and that I may just have to be patient for my body. My physician told me that this may be something that medicine just can't help me with and that not all pain is fixable.
Now nearly a year and a half of dealing with this I've given up on a Western approach and want to think outside of the box. I was excited to find your forum and am hoping to get some sort of guidance on what to do now.
Thanks
Searching4Truth
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Re: TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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By:
Joe De Livera
Sri Lanka
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August 10 2010
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To: Search4Truth
Please post your case with full details on the ABC Forum which I visit daily on:
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/1127/
I used to visit this Forum, The Homeopathy and More Forum in the past but do not do so on a daily basis today as the email alerts do not come anymore and as a result patients are sometimes left without any response from me.
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Re:TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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By:
hec
India
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August 12 2010
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1. Age/Sex/Country/Climate:
39 yr / Male / Kolkata,India / Tropical - Hot & humid
2. Current complain - from how long:
Pain & Pus from Perenial Abscess operation done on 12/7/2010.Pain in Anus always but increases after going to toilet. Doctor saying that I have developed low end fistula
3. Current medicine you are taking:
Started your joepathy from 6/8/2010.
Silicia 6x - 2 tab 3 times a day
Arnica 30C - 1 tsp 3 times a day (after shaking 5 times)
Nat Phos 6x - 2 tab 3 times a day (after food)
Ferrum Phox 6x - 2 tab 2 times
Applying antiseptic ointment (Betadine) after returning from toilet
Eltroxin 25mcg (for hypothyroid)
4. Sign & Symptom of disease:
Pain & Pus from abscess.Pain in anus but increases after returning from toilet.
5. Breif medical history:
Detected hypothyrodism in Feb 2009 and started taking eltroxin for the same. Operated for gall bladder stone in Aug 2009.
Suffering from anal fissure & sentinel piles from last 20 years and got it operated on 5/4/2010.
Within one month of the opertion perenial abscess developed and got it Operated (drained) on 12/7/2010.
Culture of the abscess pus show Klebsiella pneumonie so have to take Meronem IV for 5 days from 26/7/2010 to 31/7/2010.
Now doctor is saying that abscess have develop into fistula and need to be operated.
6. Family Back Ground:
Father have piles and have died due to lung infection after going for cancer surgery of mouth.
7. Education and Nature of Profession of Patient:
Graduate and have to sit for long hour in office. Go for business trip for 7 day in a month.
8. Desires and aversion of food:
Like Bear, Chicken & chinese food.
9. Mind-behavior, anger, irritability, hurry..etc.:
Short temper, impatient, get irritated easily, shy, avoid public speaking, don't love anybody but want that everybody should take care of me.
10. What makes it worse and what makes it better:
Garlic, chille & hard stool make it worse. Soft stool make better.
11. Thirst/Tongue/diabetic...:
Thirst less but sweat a lot / tongue white / no dibetic
After taking your prescribed medicine pain in anus has reduced a bit but pus is still coming out of the drainage incession. On applying antiseptic ointment in the anus pain reduces a lot. Please let me know the time gap between each medicine and how long I have to continue the medicine. Shall I continue ferrum phos along with other medicine.
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Re: TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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By:
Joe De Livera
Sri Lanka
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August 12 2010
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To Hec
Please post your case with full details on the ABC Forum which I visit daily on:
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/1127/
I used to visit this Forum, The Homeopathy and More Forum in the past but do not do so on a daily basis today as the email alerts do not come anymore and as a result patients are sometimes left without any response from me.
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HI Joe,
I am waiting for a reply from you which I had posted yesterday but could not find the same on this website today. From today morning I have found that a small abscess has started growing at a very fast speed at 5 o'clock position. Shall I continue your joepathy or there a need to change any medicine. Please reply.
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