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TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
Started by: Joe De Livera at November 19 2007
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Re: TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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By:
Joe De Livera
Sri Lanka
 
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January 16 2010
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To Sam
Please indicate precisely the remedies you are taking today which were prescribed by me for your Fistula.
I must have this information to enable me to help you.
In the meanwhile do NOT consent to any surgery.
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Re:TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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rajhomeo
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January 18 2010
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Hi SanjJean,
Thanks for sharing the message. Please keep us posted if you get any response.
Thanks
Raj
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Re:TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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rajhomeo
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January 18 2010
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Hi Joe,
So, what do you think I should do now ? Wait till March for the Surgeon appointment ? Or try something else ?
Regds
Raj
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Re:TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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kytan2k
Malaysia
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January 19 2010
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Dear Joe De Livera,
I will try your advice, however I am finding it difficult to get those homeopathic medicines over in my country. Is there any website where I could purchase most or all of it online ?
Thanks for your time and advise.
Best regards,
KY Tan
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Re: TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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By:
Joe De Livera
Sri Lanka
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January 19 2010
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To Raj
Have you experienced any relief after you took the Cina 200 which should have rid you of the Thread and Pin Worms that you reported ?
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Re: TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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By:
Joe De Livera
Sri Lanka
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January 19 2010
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To Tan
I have a patient in Malaysia who located a vendor of Homeopathic remedies and have already requested information.
Please visit the link below:
http://www.abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/210207/2
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Re: TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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By:
Joe De Livera
Sri Lanka
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January 19 2010
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Here is the address:
syarikat tm shafi
7-4 jalan tun sambanthan-4
50470 kuala lumpur
malaysia
tel/fax: 03-22745627
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Re:TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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kytan2k
Malaysia
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January 19 2010
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Dear Dr. Joe,
I manage to get all the medicine i.e. Arnice 30c, Nat Phos 6x and Silicea 6x, however could not find the antibiotic ointment. The shop owner suggested an antiseptic ointment called Calendula from India, is that ok ?
Thanks for your help. Actually I just went to that shop just now.
Rgds,
KY Tan
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Re: TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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By:
Joe De Livera
Sri Lanka
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January 19 2010
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Patients who used the Calendula ointment informed me that they were not satisfied with the response.
Any good antibiotic ointment will do as it's purpose is to keep the bacterial count as low as is possible after every bowel movement when the lesion is infected with the bacteria in the gut which in turn hinders the healing and causes the discharge of pus.
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Re:TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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rajhomeo
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January 19 2010
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Hi Joe,
I still need to order the medicine " Cina 200 " online and take it. Shall keep you posted.
Regds
Raj
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Re:TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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sanjean
USA
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January 20 2010
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Hi Raj
The only dilution of Cina that I could find was 30c and I still have the problem! and I am taking Paragon (about half way through) and using my Terminator zapper every day all day and STILL have the little BUGgers! (pin worms that is). So far everything I do just seems to make them worse! But, I'm hoping that stirring them up is a good thing but I'm not sure at this point!
Have you done any research on parasites?
I'll let you know as I learn more.
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Re:TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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sailord
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January 21 2010
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Hi again, Joe (I posted a few weeks ago). I finally obtained the liquid form Arnica and started the prescribed therapy yesterday. I want to ask for your help regarding the pus discharge from my fistula, however...
I've spent a lot of time on my own in the past simply draining my own small abscesses and the fistula itself of pus (and often blood), so I'm very much used to doing that. One thing that drew me to your therapy a few weeks ago was that the pus discharge from the fistula got so bad that it became noticeable, whereas before that it was there but didn't interrupt my daily life.
My question is regarding your experience with this pus in those with fistulas...over the past week or so, I carefully push on areas at the bottom and top (as high as possible) of the fistula, and it seems like I can do it literally for hours, but there's always pus and/or blood that can come out. Do you know if the pus itself is sometimes endless (constantly produced), or if I work on it enough (now with the AB ointment) would it *normally* eventually stop coming out? It just seems endless, and it makes me feel a bit overpowered...if it's endless, should I just get as much out as I can before I tire myself out?
As always, thank you so much for any insight you can provide!
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Re: TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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Joe De Livera
Sri Lanka
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January 21 2010
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I presume that you are using all the remedies I have prescribed and I note that you are also using the internal massage with AB ointment, in spite of which you state you are discharging an endless stream of Pus. This flow of pus is rather strange as when you squeeze the internal wall of your anal muscles with your finger, it should normally cease after a few squeezes.
Look for the discharge of a light red blood stain and you then know for sure that the pus which is basically dead bacteria and plasma is being replaced by healthy tissue which you body is producing to fill up the Fistula.
For the record please list the remedies you are using today to make quite sure that you are following my therapy precisely.
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Re:TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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rajhomeo
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January 21 2010
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HI Sanjean,
I haven't done anything on my parasites yet as I need to order he medicine. I found, also i have previously ordered from this site where Cina 200 C is available.
Here it is : (Look in High Potencies section)
http://www.remedysource.com/store/remedy_detail.php?remedy_id=403&search_name=#
Please let me know if I could be of any help in this.
Regds
Raj
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Re:TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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Ineedhealing
las vegas
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January 22 2010
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Joe, so good to communicate my progress to you after not having Internet access for a week.
I began treatment on Jan 7th after getting the Arnica, Silicea, & Nat. Phos. I still had a lot of debilitating pain during the first week and had to resort to allopathic pain medicine for a few days.
The pain however did subside and I felt as though the wound was definitely beginning to heal. I have been able to have BM without pain and am eating solid foods again. I am still staying clear of coffee, alcohol, shrimp, beef, etc. I did not have success, at first with the antibiotic ointment. It caused a burning pain that lasted for hours. After the wound healed more, I've been able to use it. I have no more anxiety when going to the bathroom which is such a RELIEF.
I am now taking the Arnica & Silicea 2x/day and continuing the Nat. Phos after my meals. How long would you suggest that I continue this protocol? I noticed in another post that you suggest taking the Arnica continuously. Is that the same for the Silicea? And how long should I continue the abstaining from coffee, beef, etc.
Thanks again for your help!
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Re:TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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sailord
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January 22 2010
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Hi, Joe, and thanks for your response. The pus (and with it some light blood, but not always) is basically endless, yes, which is part of what drew me to your therapy..because even when I'm not trying to expel it, it comes out noticeably (not in a fast stream or anything frightening..just fairly steady much of the time). It's disheartening, because I'd be so happy to finally push on the area and have nothing come out. The fistula causes me almost no pain anymore (it usually doesn't), just some discomfort...the part about it I can't stand is the discharge; it's really making my life much more difficult.
I will keep an eye out for the light red blood stain. Should it normally be accompanied by any pus?
I am using, as outlined in your therapy:
Arnica 30c in the wet dose, thrice daily (I've seen you mention twice daily before, but sometimes thrice, so I've gone with thrice)
Silicea 6x - 2 tablets thrice daily
Ferr Phos 6x - 2 tablets twice daily
AB ointment massaged as far up (to down) into area as possible after each BM
I have skipped the Nat Phos, as with a J-pouch (no colon), BMs are almost always watery and/or extremely soft.
Thanks so much again for any information or suggestions at this point.
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Re: TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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By:
Joe De Livera
Sri Lanka
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January 22 2010
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To: Ineedhealing
You stated: "I did not have success, at first with the antibiotic ointment. It caused a burning pain that lasted for hours."
This pain is not usual as ABO is usually mixed into a Petroleum jelly and if you feel that it was caused by the ABO you can get another brand.
You will have to take all the remedies I have prescribed for some months into the future till your lesion shows signs of healing with no discharge of Pus and the Fistula has closed up.
You can take the Arnica 30c in the Wet dose for life as I am doing myself nightly for the last 13 years.
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Re: TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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By:
Joe De Livera
Sri Lanka
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January 22 2010
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To: Sailord
I am beginning to wonder if your discharge of pus is due to some leakage from your J Pouch. I am not sufficiently knowledgeable to work out the mechanics of this J Pouch but this can account for the constant discharge of what you have identified as Pus.
How often do you have BM's ?
Have you been diagnosed with a Fistula by medical specialists ?
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Re:TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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sailord
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January 22 2010
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Hi, Joe. I have in fact been diagnosed with a fistula. In 2007, I had a fistulotomy after developing an abscess (in the same location) several times. It, as we know is often the case, didn't take care of the problem, and every time I go to see my surgeon, he confirms I still have the fistula, and tells me he can either put in a draining seton (which I know is very much temporary) or an anal fistula plug (which he claims is permanent unless my body rejects it). I'm trying ever so hard to avoid the cost and agony of more procedures.
I've thought about it being leakage from the J-pouch as well, but a few things steer me away from that. Even during times when I have very little to drink and eat, the discharge remains exactly the same, and this goes for *directly after* finishing a BM as well. I don't have *that* much experience with what pus looks like, but I'm very familiar with the appearance of my stool from all my surgeries in the past, and I'd say with 90% certainty it's not stool. Of course, I can't say for sure. The other thing is that after all the careful prodding I do now, it does *eventually* calm down..it just takes a long time of prodding.
My BMs are better than a lot of J-pouch patients, but usually range anywhere from 4-6 per day, and less when I sleep all the way through the night. I've had the pouch since 2006 now, and up until this discharge problem started, I typically had little to no leakage at all. Thanks again for your help, as always.
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Re: TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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By:
Joe De Livera
Sri Lanka
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January 23 2010
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Yours is a case that I have never encountered before and all I can suggest at this stage is that you continue with the therapy with the exclusion of the Nat Phos and it would be appreciated if you will please record your response from time to time on this Forum.
I do not think that any further surgical adventures can help you at this stage.
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Re:TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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sailord
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January 23 2010
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Thanks for the encouraging words, Joe. I was so afraid you might say "Yours is the rare case where I say you must go ahead with surgery." I will keep trying!
Last night, I spent over an hour just massaging the area and expelling pus. I noticed it comes out when I work on three "areas": (this might be hard to describe in words) 1) the innermost area/center of the buttocks, i.e. the same place where you suggest massaging with AB ointment. 2) a little bit when I work on the innermost part of the right buttock. 3) the most pus comes out when I work on the inner part of the left buttock..just outside of the anal opening. I push inward to the right, toward the anal opening, and that's where it seems to come out most endlessly. This is the area where I have in the past had an abscess (it doesn't seem abscessed now).
I will keep the forum updated, and I will also keep the faith that I can avoid surgery. Thank you again.
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Re:TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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sanjean
USA
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January 24 2010
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I would really appreciate it if everyone who visits this page tells us what experience they have had regarding parasites and parasite cleanses.
There seems to be a link between parasites and fistulas that really needs to be investigated.
The research indicates that about 85% of all people are infected with parasites and that includes North America and Europe, not just third world countries and that most people are totally unaware that they have parasites. There also seems to be some silly taboo of talking about it.
I was unaware of having parasites until I bought a zapper. It seems to have stirred things up and I am now very much aware that I do have them!
Parasites bore through flesh, including the colon. This could cause infection, which leads to an abscess which leads to a fistula. It makes perfect sense to me! and could also account for surgeries not correcting the problem.
I am doing absolutely everything I can to avoid surgery and my heart goes out to everyone that has endured these operations.
There are at least two of us on this site that have fistulas and we found out we also have pin worms.
Please do some research on parasites, especially pin worms and let us know if you may have this problem too.
Thanks for you help!!!
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Re: TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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By:
Joe De Livera
Sri Lanka
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January 24 2010
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As long as you are comfortable with massaging the problem area, you are cleared to do so as I believe that there has to be an end to the problem. The Silicea 6x is helping the expulsion of the Pus and the bacteria. The Arnica 30c will fill up the area that was infected by the bacteria and we can expect some positive resolution to the problem soon.
The problem that you have is the infestation of Pin and Thread Worms that are obviously exacerbating your problem and are preventing its rapid cure. Please confirm that you have used the Cina 200 as this is essential to treat these parasites.
I was interested in your statement:
"The research indicates that about 85% of all people are infected with parasites and that includes North America and Europe, not just third world countries and that most people are totally unaware that they have parasites."
I wonder if people are aware of how they originally get infected by any parasite. My research has shown that parasites are often present in raw Salads that are eaten as a matter of course in developed countries in the mistaken notion that they are essential for the well being of the person. Some even eat it as an alternative to food usually for lunch with a fruit like an apple as a filler to control their weight. It is only when the patient is infected by these bugs that they are forced to take action but even then the medical profession is unaware that these parasites are the real cause and do not advice their patients not to eat any raw uncooked food.
Here in the Tropics, eating salads during meals is not recommended as we do have a choice selection of bugs which are best left outside the body and not permitted to proliferate in the gut.
I have had many instances of patients suffering from chronic diarrhoea and who had been treated in one case, by 6 gastric specialists over the course of 6 months, who had treated them for all imaginable and even unimaginable diseases all of which had failed to control the diarrhoea which had rendered the patients to be weak and immobile. They had invariably been dosed with a cocktail of drugs including Antibiotics, drugs against Amoeba, and a host of other dangerous drugs, none of which had helped the patients and invariably left them more dead than alive.
The therapy I used was Cina 200 which killed the parasites in a week. I also used other remedies like Nat Phos, Ars Alb and Arnica and they were all cured usually within a week.
It occurs to me that in your case, you are best advised to consult a doctor who can advise you on the best drug that can kill the parasites you have identified since you are suffering so much from their constant irritation of the lesion.
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Re:TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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sanjean
USA
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January 24 2010
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Thank you for your kind advice Joe.
I have not ordered the Cina 200 yet. I took the Cina 30 that was the only one available but as you told me, it did not clear the pin worms. I was hoping that the Paragone (parasite cleanse) and the zapper would work. They seem to be helping (I'm seeing some interesting creatures coming out in my poop) but I'm still far from clear of pin worms. I will order the Cina 200 shortly and give that a try too. Are there any other remedies that you would recommend for me now and in the near future, so I can order them all at the same time. The shipping usually costs as much or more than the remedy itself.
What do you recommend I take now? I have Nat Phos 6x, Silicea 6x, Ferrum Phos 6x, and Arnica 30c liquid.
I don't think an allopathic doctor will take much notice of most parasite problems and I'll try to rid myself of them the best I can.
Research on my own parasite infection is as follows.....
We were given some kind of medication for parasites a number of times as children. My Father always seemed to have an itchy butt (most likely pin worms) and both myself and my brother have had (what I assumed was) a rash that was itchy and sore. I remember a feeling like something was crawling out of my butt about 6 years ago but thought I was imagining it. Now after this recent episode of pin worm infestation, I realize that it really was a worm crawling out my butt! but I did not have any other symptoms that I was aware of.
I suspect that I have had them all my life but am still doing the research to find out what I can.
The only thing that has occurred, other than using the zapper, is that we had a friend visit for a week just before my infestation became obvious. I started using the zapper immediately after she left. I wonder now if she may have left some uninvited guests!
Pin worms are highly contagious. They crawl out of the anus and lay eggs on the surrounding tissue, then crawl back in. The eggs are spread from underwear, bedding and toilet seats. They are spread by not disinfecting hands after using the toilet. Normal washing of hands is not adequate. The eggs can be dispersed by touch and they even float in the air from changing bedding and can be inhaled, where they incubate in the sinuses and lungs, to be coughed up and swallowed, then into the intestinal tract.
After doing some research, I realize just how easily these parasite can be spread. One example would be.....no matter how clean a restaurant is, all it takes is one server or or one customer to be infected and we can easily pick up a few microscopic eggs and never be aware of it. Another would be, if one infected person touched a vegetable while packing it or while it was in a store, we take it home and make a salad. Washing with water will not remove the eggs. We can even pick them up by walking barefoot in the sand. The larvae can enter through the bottom of the foot. It feels like an insect bite. Which reminds me.....while in Mexico last winter, I thought it odd that an insect would bite me on the sole of my foot.
As I said, I had NO idea that I had them or how long I've had them but I'm working hard to get rid of them.
I suspect that they are the cause of my fistula and know without a doubt that they are not allowing it to heal.
It seems to me that diverticulitis may also be caused by parasites along with many other colon complaints. I wonder how many people are suffering needlessly that are being treated for the symptoms of parasites instead of dealing with the real problem?
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Re:TREATMENT OF FISTULA, FISSURE AND ABSCESS IN THE ANUS
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By:
togaf
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January 25 2010
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Dear Joe De Livera,
I am not currently taking any remedies as have stopped. However had trialled your recommendations previously for about 5 weeks before constant reforming abcesses forced me to stop treatment - I rarely get abcesses reformation if not on remedy.
The remedy I took at the time (as documented previously) were:
- Arnica Montana 30c in liquid form (ethanol solution) - 2 drops in 450mL, 2 capfuls 3 times per day after shacking bottle
- Silicea 6X - 2 tablets taken 3 times daily
- Antibiotic ointment taken after passing stools in the morning - Bactroban nasal ointment (mupirocin ointment 2% w/w)
I have decided to re-undergo fibrin glue treatment - whilst annoying and painful, fortunately does not carry any life-long incontence risks that the other procedures carry.
I would really welcome your assistance with using the silcea + arnica in particular as part of my fibrin glue treatment to help pus reduction/tissue formulation and ultimately cure.
best regards,
Sam.
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