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Chronic Tic Disorder
Started by: Jay 15 at January 27 2007
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Re:Chronic Tic Disorder
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By:
Jay 15
 
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July 19 2010
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Medicines Given to date
July 16 - Nux Vomica 30c
July 17 - Arnica 1M
July 18 - Aethusa
July 19th pm - observing son and tics remain the same. Will be starting Gelsemium tonight.
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Re:Chronic Tic Disorder
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By:
udaya kumar
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July 19 2010
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No change is a good sign. Continue with the medication. best wishes.
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Re:Chronic Tic Disorder
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By:
Jay 15
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July 20 2010
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Gelesium will be completed tomorrow morning. Am I after this remedy expecting to see results?
Do I wait for results and then proceed with pre natal layer (thuya)? If I dont see changes do I wait for the fifteen days since last Arnica dose and then readminister followed again by Aethusa and Gelsemium again? Or do I go to prenatal layer regardless of whether or not we see changes.
Im a little curious at your statement that no change is a good sign. Can you please explain this a little further for me.
Again thank you for everything your doing for us!
Jay
I reread your post above on January 30th 2007 about Gelsemium. Interesting about the mention of back pain. My son often complains about back pain which Ive always found wierd. He often asks for back massage to help with discomfort.
He has had Gelsmium 30c in the past by the way.
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Re:Chronic Tic Disorder
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Flemming.
Norway
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July 20 2010
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This is Ignatia amara.
You should give Ignatia 200C, one dose.
Wait 4-5 days. If nothing happens, give one more dose of 200C.
Flemming.
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Re:Chronic Tic Disorder
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By:
udaya kumar
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July 20 2010
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Dear Fleming,
Ignatia contains Strchnine and Brucine. Nux Vomica also contains Strichnine and Brucine, and Strichninum also contains Strichnine. See the symptoms of Strichnine disorder in its ferocity in Strichninum. Tics are the tip of the disorder. Ignanatia would be the outerlayer. The cause would lie somewhere else. The simili of the manifested symptoms need not work to the deep rooted cause which is miasmetic, predispositions and further acquired iatrogenic causes. They have to be removed first to administer the similar medicine for outerlayer which you see and which is agreeing with the symptoms of Ignatia amara. We are right now doing the spade work. We shall go to Ignatia and Strichninum and Bovista, Agaricus , Causticum and the kind when Lyco and Phosphorus fails.
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Re:Chronic Tic Disorder
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By:
Flemming.
Norway
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July 20 2010
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Hello again.
I looked over my literature on this topic, tics and cramps. Surprisingly, I found that Belladonna is mentioned in relation to Tourette's syndrome, and jerks and violent twitch.
After seeing your video with your son, I must say that this medicine is better suited to his symptoms.
It says, among other things, that the jerking is specifically localized in the shoulders. Right side.
"Jerking of face or upper limps, especially the shoulder." ( Roger Morrison. Desktop Companion)
Coldness of extremities with hot head should be considered a universal symptom for this remedy.
Sincerly, Flemming.
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Re:Chronic Tic Disorder
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Jay 15
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July 20 2010
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Udaya, may you please reply to my last post. Now that Gelsemium is done I am wondering the next step. Thanks,
Jay
Fleming I appreciate your input, but I am whole heartedly sticking with Udaya's prescription.
Thanks,
Jay
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Re:Chronic Tic Disorder
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Flemming.
Norway
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July 20 2010
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Thats ok, but does i help?
Can not see any improvement, progress, for several years.
Can you at least do me the favor to read about Belladonna on Materia Medica, especially Extremities?
Flemming. (Practitioner of classical homeopathy)
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Re:Chronic Tic Disorder
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Jay 15
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July 21 2010
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Fleming, I would never turn down advice. So feel to join in.
Back in 2007 when Udaya was offering to help I was at the point of being fed up with Homeopahty and went in search of nutritional answers, to no avail of course.
I am back and ready to follow his prescription as I believe in his writings and will follow his prescription this time.
My son has had Belladonna more than a few times over the years.
His whole body is always warm, extremeties included.
Thanks for the input, and please continue to contribute.
Jay
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Re:Chronic Tic Disorder
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By:
udaya kumar
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July 21 2010
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Thanks Jay for the trust that has been reposed.
Thanks Flemming for the input. The modern scene of ailments are much different from what it has been in Hahnemann's time, and we need to go in between lines and even between dots and dashes. I appreciate all the advises which are very well taken. Jay I shall give you the reply late today as I have been a bit preoccupied with other professional priorities.
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Re:Chronic Tic Disorder
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By:
udaya kumar
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July 21 2010
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Dear Jay,
The complete course I had suggested is :
1. Nux Vomica 30 three doses for one day to clear up the system for all medicines you have given to him .
2. Arnica 1M one dose in 15 days.
3. Aethusa 30 three doses for one day.
4. Gelsemium 30 three doses for one day.
wait for improvements on the immediate acute layer.
Go for the pre-natal layer: (II part)
1. Thuja 30 three doses a day for three days.
2. Natrum Mur 30 three doses for three days.
wait for one or two days for the medicines to work.
3. Phosphorus 30 three doses a day for one week>
4. Simultaneously Lycopodium 30 three doses a day for three days.
You have finished the first part of the treatment, you have to go to the second part of the treatment, starting from pre-natal stage. You should be finding some difference after Thuja and Natrum Mur and should find benefits after Phosphorus and Lyco.
I think we will start seeing benefits after we finish this course. With best wishes.
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Re:Chronic Tic Disorder
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Jay 15
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July 21 2010
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On this prescription it stated
"wait for improvements on the immediate acute layer" for after Gelsemium.
That is what I needed clarification on. I will start Thuja 30 immediately. Thanks,
Jay
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Re:Chronic Tic Disorder
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By:
udaya kumar
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July 21 2010
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Dear Jay,
The medicines were expected work in four layers:
1. Arnica 1M - any trauma during pre-post natal or during delivery.
2. Aethusa 30 - Any consequent damages to cerbrum/cerebellum/vestibule/.labyrinthes of the nature Aethusa can cure.
3. Gelsemium - Any consequent coordination problems leading to choeric/gyeric movements of extremities.
Nux Vomica was given only to clean up the slate like we do before writing anything on it.
If no changes are visible it either means that there is no such traumas or the healing of that is impeded by a predisposition.
Therefore I have asked you to wait for a period of time. Now, you can start with Thuja which should correct the predisposition towards receiving ailments and also work in neutralising the ill effects of vaccination and iatrogenic damages if any. Natrum Mur will take over correction of the endocrine galnds and in particular the adrinals so that many other glands are set right particularly in the realm of assimilation and digestion and in particular the salt, calcium etc which has bearing on thyroid.
Once these are achieved with minimum dosages, we can go further with the medicines like phosphorus which should work on the impulses and lyco on their vehicles at deeper levels. Thereafter we should again evaluate the conditions on the ground and symptomatically proceed. Belladonna and other medicines may be required then.
with regards.
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Re:Chronic Tic Disorder
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By:
Jay 15
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July 23 2010
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Maybe just maybe were seeing small changes today. Watching son tonight and he was rolling his eyes every 1.5 minutes as opposed to every 30 seconds or so. Also I was telling my wife tonight that he was much more involved in talking with adults at birthday party tonight. He overheard me say this and he said that he noticed that he was doing that as well and said he wasn't sure why.
He usually doesn't like to talk to adults and comes off as very standoffish to them.
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Re:Chronic Tic Disorder
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By:
udaya kumar
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July 23 2010
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Natrum Mur has the capacity to make a child speak. I have tried it on innumerable cases with success. For delayed speech the fundamental medicine is Natrum Mur. Gelsemium is yet another medicine of value here. Eye problem will also be addressed by Gelsemium to large extent. We need to repeat those medicines but before that the current medicine course should run and complete. It means the medicines are working. It would only be matter of days that you can see visible benefits. With best wishes.
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Re:Chronic Tic Disorder
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By:
Jay 15
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July 24 2010
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Udaya, we are leaving for two and a half days without access to homeopathic remedies. I have only one pellet of Nat Mur 30. I do have Nat Mur 200 though. Please tell me what you think I should do. Thanks.
By the way, I spoke to soon on the improvements of yesterday. Today was normal again.
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Re:Chronic Tic Disorder
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By:
Jay1.5
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July 24 2010
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I made a wet dose out of single pellet and have given three times today. Not sure if this is enough to work. We are away on a bike tour today. My son rode 90 km today and his eyes are absolutely horrible. He is exhausted tonight so maybe that makes it worse.
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Re:Chronic Tic Disorder
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By:
udaya kumar
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July 25 2010
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You may start medicines afresh after he is normal and not tired from the journey.
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Re:Chronic Tic Disorder
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By:
Jay 15
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July 26 2010
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Just got this message now. Gave him three more doses today but Im not sure that one pellet dissolved in 200ml of water and a maybe two teaspoons of this liquid as one dose is enough. Can you let me know if this could be considered a dose?
He rode 170 km over the last two days and for an 11 yr old boy that is a huge accomplishment. He surprised us and himself.
I will get Nat Mur tommorrow and start normal doses perhaps the day after that. Eyes again today are worse than normal.
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Re:Chronic Tic Disorder
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By:
Jay 15
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July 29 2010
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Udaya, we finished three days of Nat Mur last night and will wait for day or two before starting Phos and Lyco. I havent seen my son much yesterday as Ive been away on business but my wife says that there seems to be small improvement in eye movements.
3. Phosphorus 30 three doses a day for one week
4. Simultaneously Lycopodium 30 three doses a day for three days.
So based on this prescription I am to give both Phos and Lyco three times each daily spaced out evenly for three days then drop the Lyco after three days and continue Phos for four more days.
I will monitor my son later today and report back anything that I may notice.
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Re:Chronic Tic Disorder
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By:
udaya kumar
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July 29 2010
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Jay,
That seems to me a good sign. The eyes are related directly with the cerebellum and therefore any improvement in eye movements is quite auspicious. Let us see what the Phosphorus and Lyco as we originally suggested has in store to help the progress of the possible cure. I am keeping my fingers crossed. with best wishes.
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Re:Chronic Tic Disorder
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By:
Jay 15
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July 30 2010
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I have been able to watch my son and I too agree that there is improvements. I have started the Phos, Lyco this morning.
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Re:Chronic Tic Disorder
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By:
udaya kumar
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July 30 2010
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We need to build on this. It is a good beginning. Please continue the medicines as per schedule. with best wishes..
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Re:Chronic Tic Disorder
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By:
Jay 15
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July 31 2010
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Ok this is exciting. There is definite improvements here. Its been a long time since our family has had any success with homeopathy so this is a real treat.
Yesterday I noticed that there was improvements then I took him for a drive and noticed his eyes were really really bad while we were out.
Today when he woke up I commented to my wife on how great he looked. His eyes weren't all puffy and he didn't look tired like he normally does.
I just sat and watched him play for about five minutes and his whole body is calm. His muscles aren't twitching and he can actually sit still. His eyes never rolled once and his rapid blinking seems to have gone.
I still expect him to twitch but I just didn't see it in this period of watching him.
Coincidentally my eye blinking is horrible today,lol.
I personally have never seemed to be affected positively by homeopathy (other than for acute colds) and I'm wondering if I too have an air issue. If I do would this prevent me from fixing other issues in my body until this is rectified?
Garcot is helping me with my hearing issue and Im wondering if this air imbalance could be preventing the ear from healing with homeopathy.
Your thoughts?
Thanks so much for all that your doing here with us. This truly is exciting.
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Re:Chronic Tic Disorder
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By:
Jay1.5
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July 31 2010
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Tonight we get in the car and his eyes go bad again. Interesting. I'm not sure if its the motion or the air movement but it instantly gets worse in vehicle. Now two hours after ride his eyes are starting to settle down but rapid blinking remains. I've never noticed this before.
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Re:Chronic Tic Disorder
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By:
garcot
Bangalore
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August 1 2010
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Jay,
Incidentally, I had asked you about the weather conditions in your area and you never took interest to answer! ( I think, it is in the last couple of posts your other thread). Nothing happens in our body out of the box and I always believe in a sustaining factor for all our ailments. You won't believe, I was fine till yesterday evening and all of a sudden, my throat, chest nostrils have all gone dry. Nothing unusual was eaten too. Then when I had a look at the satellite weather map, all clouds have disappeared and the humidity has suddently dipped from 70% to 55% ! I need to take a remedy for the sudden change of weather.....
Take care,
Best wishes
Garcot
"wisdom in your body is deeper than your deepest philosophy"(Nietszche)
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Re:Chronic Tic Disorder
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By:
udaya kumar
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August 1 2010
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You give him one dose of cocculus Indicus 30 before getting into the car. If it is the spinal nerve, leading to the eyes at fault, that would be cured. If not Rhus Tox one dose and Gelsemium or Belladonna would be required.
Garcot,
You are right in pointing out the weather outside. meaning the weather inside should be at harmony with the weather outside. If there is an imbalance the body should have a capacity to adjust with that. You are getting sick because the mechanism within you is not able to adjust to the change in weather outside where as I am standing just on your side shoulder to shoulder with you in the same weather condition adjust to the weather outside from inside my body and therefore I do not fall sick and you fall sick. All ailments of human beings have its origin within or inside the body. We should not unnecessary blame the weather outside, the sun outside, the moon outside, the air outside, the fire outside, or any food outside or any sound outside for what is wrong within us. Look inside, correct inside, make the inside strong that is all human health is all about. with best regards.
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